Episode 28: A Conversation About DBT with Dr. J.J Kelly


Hey everyone! Welcome to today’s episode of the Wright Conversations Podcast! For today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. J.J Kelly to talk about Dialectical Behavior Therapy, the misconceptions around its usage, and the reality of working with insurance companies. Dr. Kelly also talks about ‘I feel’ statements, identifying and owning our emotions, the symptoms of shame, and achieving global healing through gratitude.
Let’s delve in!

In this Episode You’ll Learn:
[01:39] A bit about Dr. Kelly.
[02:54] What is DBT?
[04:32] BPD and DBT.
[06:16] Who is DBT for?
[07:52] The problem with working with insurance companies.
[09:17] “I feel like…” statements.
[16:33] Why do emotions matter?
[18:25] Identifying shame.
[21:09] The symptoms of shame.
[23:13] How to start learning these skills.
[26:18] Dr. Kelly’s words of wisdom.

“It shouldn’t be black and white. Everything is gray.” [04:06]
“The word that comes after the word ‘feel’ has to be an emotion word.” [10:35]
“The majority of misery that humans experience is because of a lack of connection to themselves and each other.” [17:33]
“There’s nothing more illogical than denying emotions.” [17:45]
“The very heart of narcissism is shame.” [22:54]
“Happy people act right.” [26:38]
“The natural by-product of liking yourself is wanting to give.” [28:00]


Dr. J.K. Kelly BIO

Dr. J.J Kelly (she/they), aka The Punk Rock Doc, is a licensed clinical psychologist and emotional skills training expert. She spent 16 years working as a mental health professional in the health system, seeing first-hand the systemic injustices of ableism, elitism, homophobia, racism, sexism, and narcissism. She then decided to build a system based on love, laughter, and teaching, to achieve global healing and help others like themselves and unlock their superpowers.


Connect with Dr. Kelly

Website:            www.drjjkelly.com.

Instagram:          @drjjkelly.

YouTube:           Dr. J.J Kelly.


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